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Publication:6348718

arXiv2009.04074MaRDI QIDQ6348718

Menachem Magidor, Matthew Foreman, Martin Zeman

Publication date: 8 September 2020

Abstract: This paper has two parts. The first is concerned with a variant of a family of games introduced by Holy and Schlicht, that we call emph{Welch games}. Player II having a winning strategy in the Welch game of length omega on kappa is equivalent to weak compactness. Winning the game of length 2kappa is equivalent to kappa being measurable. We show that for games of intermediate length gamma, II winning implies the existence of precipitous ideals with gamma-closed, gamma-dense trees. The second part shows the first is not vacuous. For each gamma between omega and kappa+, it gives a model where II wins the games of length gamma, but not gamma+. The technique also gives models where for all omega1<gammalekappa there are kappa-complete, normal, kappa+-distributive ideals having dense sets that are gamma-closed, but not gamma+-closed.












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